Wednesday, March 18, 2009

More on student feedback, and standards

A few additional comments from online students .... as an addendum to my earlier post on this topic
  • Thanks for a fun, interesting, and eye-opening class!
  • I wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed taking your class. I have found most classes at Western well frankly too easy. This class was definitely a stretch for me and i feel like i have actually learned something and grown as a student. Thank you for putting forth a challenging class and teaching me!
  • I really enjoyed this class. I enjoyed you so much as a professor that I signed up for one of your geography classes next term.
  • This has been a good class
  • This class has been very interesting to me, I am glad I took it.
The really, really, off-beat comment, is the one that includes the remark that most classes at Western are too easy. Not only am I glad that my class was not an easy one, I am all the more excited that I can continue to be a tough instructor :-)

Back in California, when I was barely into my second year of teaching, a colleague in the math dept, Lee, who was a full-professor a couple of years away from retirement, walked across to talk with me at the president's reception during the beginning of the academic year. He remarked that I had already gained a reputation among students that I was a tough instructor--my classes were hard, my exams were hard, and my grading standards were way too hard.
So, naturally, I asked if it was a good thing or a bad thing to have such a reputation. I have worked his bottom line ever since; he replied, "it is a bad thing if students don't sign up for your classes, and a good thing if your classes continue to attract students."

I realize that this posting comes across as being, well, rather boastful. But, this is the only way I can lead up to the pedagogical and philosophical issue here: I am always in pursuit of ways in which I can help students raise their own levels of understanding, without them getting frustrated in their attempts. At the end of it all, even if their grade is only a C+, I want them to be encouraged and happy with not their grade as much as a feeling that the ten weeks were not spent in vain. A feeling that the ten weeks of academic interaction with me and fellow students made them more informed and wiser.

Now, does it really matter if this experience was in a regular classroom, or in an online environment? What rationale might we have to force students into an regular classroom schedule, if the ultimate outcome we are interested in is in the value-added to students?

So far, and I am into my seventh year here at WOU, this approach has worked out well. I don't think I have reached the destination--on the other hand, I suppose this will be a journey all the way until my retirement, or my death, or when I am fired from my job!

And, yes, Lee will be happy to know that students continue to enroll in my classes :-)

Sunday, March 15, 2009

Easier for students to give feedback in online classes?

There are times when I wonder if the academic life is worth it. Hey, I am human with feelings!
The neat thing with online classes is that unlike "regular" students, many of the online students email their appreciation at the end of the term, which then pumps me up for the following term :-)

Very rarely do the regular students ever walk up to me at the end of the term to say that they liked the class, or my teaching, or .... There was one student who included a poem along with her final exam answers, which I thought was way too cool.
Since I started using Meebo, every once in a while I would get student feedback as an IM. I saved some of those as screenshots; you are looking at one of those on the left.

Anyway, thanks to the student (whose identity I am intentionally not revealing) for the email, which I have copied/pasted here .... well, given that I teach only one online class this term, it won't take much to figure out which course "xyz" stands for ....
[GEOGxyz] was unlike any other class I've had at Western. .... Keep up the good work Dr. Khe!

Wish you well,